"When you get under the skin of the broads at Pandagon AND Wonkette..."

Noooo, you misunderstand. Wonkette linked to you because she appreciates the entertainment value of sanctimonious, self-important idiots.

My choice for the winner:

Are those French Poodles moving in down the block, dear? There goes the neighborhood!

Karl-laughing my conservative ass off. Self-important? Funny shit Karl. Perhaps if you actually read my blog your opinion would matter.

>> Self-important? Funny shit Karl.

Ah, so you accept the sanctimonious idiot part? OK, I'll settle for that.

:-)

Well gee Karl, I don't pretend anything. A lifetime of experiences has led me to my ideology. Seeing tragedy after tragedy because people can't get that personal responsibility thing in their heads. Y'all shove that tolerance thing at us but yet you won't do it yourself, bit of a hypocrisy, huh? I'll tell you what I tell everyone, I don't care if you agree with me or not; that's kind of the point of the 'sphere. Just keep it cordial, I'm not one to ban trolls. I actually DO appreciate different opinions.

Hey, I stumbled into your blog today. It is a rather interesting read. Why do you consider yourself a conservative Christian? I could not find anything on your blog that explains this title you have affixed to yourself.

Stacey --

Things are slower than cold molasses going uphill at my job today, so lucky you, you get another missive from me. I've noted that you do seem to enjoy some back & forth with people who disagree with you, and I respect that, though I also think that such dialogs are rather pointless as a rule. Neither of us is likely to change the other's mind about anything. Like I said, I'm only putting pen to paper here because there's nothing much else for me to do.

Yes, I'm intolerant of people who want to tell other people how they should live. Is that "intolerant" of me? No more than it would make you "bigoted" if you were to say you're prejudiced against bigots.

You don't pretend anything? Perhaps not. I didn't say you did. That just means that you believe your own nonsense -- you're not "pretending"; congratulations. I said you were sanctimonious. The attitude that oozes from your writings is that there is a morality and holiness to your life choices that should stand as a model to others. ALL others. That's sanctimonious.

You believe you know "God's plan" for how people should live. You believe that your way is the right way and the only right way. You believe your view of God and his plan is the only right view. You believe you have the right to condemn the lifestyles and choices of others as wrong and misguided and evil, without any requirement that those judgments be based on some harm being done to someone. (And no, your opinion that something isn't according to "God's plan" doesn't constitute "harm" in my book.)

Yah, yah, I know: You also believe that "a lifetime of experiences" has confirmed the correctness of your views. Forgive me if I'm not impressed. A lifetime of having closed minded is worth exactly nothing. Everything I've read of yours (and I've been reading!) indicates that that's a good characterization of your life.

There are different kinds of "personal responsibility." Taking your beliefs as they were spoon fed to you does not show personal responsibility. Believing that everyone's life should be lived according to a rigid and narrow set of rules does not show personal responsibility. "Personal responsibility" is often just a catch-phrase that people use when they want to say "you're doing something I don't like," or "you're not living the way I think you ought to live." Having the courage to look past your own reflexive, unthinking judgments shows personal responsibility. A willingness to question the rules you were raised with shows personal responsibility. Recognizing that, in the absence of clear and verifiable harm being done, you CANNOT know another person's life well enough to be able to judge them--that takes personal responsibility.

Karl

And to show that I am indeed tolerant, the comment stays. Really you have no idea of who I am. I am pro-choice believe or not; although I believe abortion is abhorrent, I'm not going to tell someone what to do with their body. My life has not been the piece of cake, or spoon-feeding orgy you believe it to be. I've made my fair share of mistakes and am thankful that no one was harmed from those mistakes. That's all. I don't dictate a morality regiment for all to follow, it's simply my opinion. Teenage girls are so vulnerable and my heart breaks for them. I don't understand why anyone has an issue with offering them an alternative. After all, it is all about choice.

I think Karl needs a good old fashioned colonic.

God, if I hear one more self-righteous person stand on a soapbox and say "I refuse to tell anyone what they can or cannot do with their body" I'll puke.

Our nation, every state, every county, every city, every housing development has volumes of rules dictating precisely what people can, and cannot do with their bodies. That's what an ordered society is about.

And of course, you'll flip to page 27 of the moveon.org handbook and reply "Yes, but I draw the line when people's behavior affects other people," which is where we differ. To me, a bloody heap of tiny, perfectly-formed, inarguably human body parts on a stainless steel tray, labeled a "choice," is absolutely f**king affecting another person.

God, just admit you worship at the shrine of abortion and be done with it. Knock off the holier than thou shit though, I beg you.

Stacy, you really sucked in the trolls today, didn't you? Shoot me the IP addresses from your site meter logs and we'll see whose been violating their empoyer's policies by harrassing you from work.

Stacey --

I know my post was long-winded an' all, but if you're going to respond to one particular thing I said, you might take the time to read that one particular thing. I didn't say your life was spoon-fed to you, I said your beliefs were spoon-fed. As in pre-manufactured and fed to you with no examination or thought on your part.

Which is of course a guess. I don't know you, as you say. I can only go by what I read. And when someone says, for example, that a marriage can only be a union between one man and one woman, because that is God's plan, that sounds to me like someone parroting a spoon-fed belief. And saying that IS dictating a morality for all to follow.

I'm glad to hear that you favor choice, and I can understand believing that abortion is abhorrent. I don't have an argument with you there, since I haven't read anything you've written on that specific subject. (Which is why I didn't bring it up.)

Man I amazed at the vitriol some people are capable of. I like lots of sex with lots of girls, but that sure as heck does not give me the right to go off on a tirade like some people have here......

BTW, I was not sure if Wonkette was praising you or slamming you......

Either way, I'm jealous of all the attention. Have a good day.

SS-you know you and I will never agree, but you made me laugh.

What's amazing is that, though Karl apparently does not agree with you, he keeps coming back to your blog....

The vagina piece was kind of creepy. Sorry, but I have to agree with the majority of comments here.

It seemed almost militant. Kind of like, "Look at my holy vagina!!! It's soooo much better than yours!!!"

On the plus side- It did get you on Wonkette, which is something. I don't think it was a positive plug, but hey, there is no such thing as bad advertising.

Some background for the strangers--I did penis week, then I did vagina week. That last post of vagina week was the vagina's monologue. So it was two weeks of interesting stories, quite fun actually. Anywho . . . This is where that piece came from. In our schools and media there is only one ideology portrayed about women and their sexuality. This was an alternative. I've said this everywhere and I'm going to say it again. We wear seatbelts for our safety, we eat right, we exercise, we go to the doctor, all for the health of our person. Our sexual and spiritual elements are a part of us as well. There is nothing wrong with looking out for your health in all areas.

I didn't even know Wonkette was still around.

Congrats on the link, Stacy :)

I think Eric needs to experience a vagina before he comes back here.

We'll probably be waiting a looooooooooooooooooong time...

Stacy,

If one's own worth in measured in inverse proportion to the caliber of one's critics, you are one worthwhile woman.

Kevin

Some of us knew that long before the freaks started showing up.

Karl,

I see one very basic difference between the Left and the Right right off the bat: if I don't have anything that needs to be done at work, I find something to do. That's what I get paid for. Not sitting on my ass blogging. But then again I, like most of us on the Right, have a work ethic that doesn't see my employer as an "oppressor".

Yes, I'm intolerant of people who want to tell other people how they should live.

But wait a minute, Karl. Your side is telling me that I have to not only accept gays, but "celebrate" them. I have to accept abortion as a "right" when the Constitution has no such right written in it. I have to be "tolerant" of everything that you think that I should be tolerant of.

Who's telling who how they should live, Karl? Seems to me that you're telling me how I should live, you hypocrite. Are you really so blind as to not see that?

You believe you have the right to condemn the lifestyles and choices of others as wrong and misguided and evil, without any requirement that those judgments be based on some harm being done to someone.

And you,/i>, Karl, are condemning Stacy for her lifestyle and choice as wrong and misguided and evil. How do you know that she (and I) doesn't believe that those judgements are based on harm being done to people?

I firmly believe that your judgements do great harm, not only to people, but to society as a whole.

So do you have the right to condemn me, while I don't have the right to condemn you? Can you not see the blatant hypocrisy in that statement, Karl?

There's nothing on this earth more closed-minded than a liberal on a rant.

Believing that everyone's life should be lived according to a rigid and narrow set of rules does not show personal responsibility.

The rules of the Left are more rigid and narrow than anything any religion has ever come up with.

Go to any college campus wearing a "Proud Republican" T-shirt and see how you're received. Ask Bernard Goldberg (of the book, "Bias" fame) what happens when you go against the Left.
Go to your local elementary school and complain about their "diversity" campaign and see what happens. I could go on and on about the PC catechism that is part and parcel of the Church of Governmentalism.

Can you really not see the hypocrisy of your positions on virtually everything? You condemn the Right as extreme for the exact opposite of what you believe. Logic (I know that word scares you) would dictate that one extreme's opposite is also extreme.

Thanks, Stacy. I could spend all of my time just replying to these chickenshit (and you know chickenshit) trolls who don't have the basic courage to leave a way to reply to them.

When I go to Pandagon, I always make damned sure that they know how to reply. But, then again, I have a pair.

I always ignore anonymous inflamatory comments. When a troll doesn't leave an email or url, you know they're just pissing in the wind. (Excuse my language, please).

I like to think that, over here, when they leave anonymous comments, they're pissing on the electric fence.

I am reluctantly pro-choice, though I, too, find abortion abhorrent.

The whole problem is that, vile and constitutionally suspect as legalized abortion is, the alternative is simply too horrible to contemplate.

The proof of that statement is the fact that nobody who responds to this comment will dare to name the alternative to legalized abortion.

What is this "alternative" that you find so horrible? Actually having a baby and raising it? Or are you somehow stuck in the rhetoric of the 1950s, thinking that women will die in droves at the hands of "back-alley abortionists" if we outlaw again?

I'm a right side guy and I'm lazy at work too (e.g. as I surf blogs if I have nothing to do..). Does that make me a closet liberal?

Damn. I was going to leave a regular comment but I COMPLETELY forgot what I was gonna say when I saw "I, too..."

(Sorry Mr. Nice Guy, not slammin' ya...sort of an inside joke, sort of.)

::running away screaming::

Truly, this is one of the most bizarre sites I have ever seen. "Conservative Girls Who Love to Fuck"? Huh?!

You are an embarassment. And a hypocrite. You run on and on about your sanctified "fucking", but really, in your haste to prove your not a prude, aren't you just being as coarse and vulgar as the people you criticize for being different than yourself? Get over yourself.

Bizarre? Maybe. Pratical, definately if someone can show me where I can meet some of these "Conservative Girls who love to...". Hell at this point I'll even settle for "Liberal girls who love to....."

Running for cover!

Franz, don't come in here and leave your droppings without knowing the blog you're critisizing. You have no idea was has been happening and to assume something off of one post is absurd. I'm guessing you don't have much of a life, so why don't you take the time and read my blog. I'll be expecting an apology.